**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 29 13:32:38 2003 Aug 29 13:32:38 --> You are now talking on #IDEAS3 Aug 29 13:32:42 Need to replace more hose? Aug 29 13:34:28 Beginning reverse track maneuver. Aug 29 13:34:43 holding at 16 will setup reverse track soon Aug 29 13:37:14 --- anstett is now known as logger Aug 29 13:37:21 --> jcowan (~jcowan@dyn84-107.atd.ucar.edu) has joined #IDEAS3 Aug 29 13:37:48 --- logger is now known as anstett Aug 29 13:38:26 we are in a wind shear at 16 k, will try for 18 to get smooth air for rtrack Aug 29 13:39:24 unable to get 18 due to atc Aug 29 13:39:48 rashaw and ewsaw, all heaters are on and maintaining temperatures nicely. Outside temp is -5, camera and mirror side setpoints are 30 C, forcing is 35%, laser setpoint 20, forcing 18/5 %. Aug 29 13:40:49 looks like we may have gone through front--wind shift by 180 north Aug 29 13:42:54 <-- jpfugal has quit (Leaving) Aug 29 13:43:03 jacobFYI: cam heat will auto-shut down at 38C; mirror heat at 40C Aug 29 13:43:19 --> jpfugal-c130 (~jpfugal@ras40.ucar.edu) has joined #IDEAS3 Aug 29 13:43:36 ewsaw: looks like jacob left the chat and didn't see your last message... Aug 29 13:44:03 hmm... thanx Aug 29 13:44:06 I'm back, I just renamed to jpfugal-c130. I'm not sure how to just rename without reconnecting with another alias. Aug 29 13:44:18 just type in /nick Aug 29 13:44:27 jacobFYI: cam heat will auto-shut down at 38C; mirror heat at 40C Aug 29 13:44:27 Aug 29 13:45:29 Thanks, Ewe Wei. Aug 29 13:45:37 Thanks Mike. Aug 29 13:45:47 --- ewsaw is now known as ewsawStudyForQuals Aug 29 13:45:58 waiting for higher for rtrack, about 5 min Aug 29 13:47:04 Jeff, any idea how high those cirrus clouds above us are? Aug 29 13:49:00 --- ewsawStudyForQuals is now known as ewsaw Aug 29 13:50:08 Aug 29 13:50:36 going to start reverse tracks here, while we wait for higher clearance Aug 29 13:50:39 How does reverse track manuevers help aerosol measurements? Aug 29 13:52:39 So far this is a pretty boring flight for the HICCUP. All the heaters are working just fine and just waiting for clouds. Aug 29 13:54:05 Jacob, maybe you can get Jeff's attention by typing in bold or color?!?! Aug 29 13:54:16 ha ha Aug 29 13:54:25 Cute. How's that? Aug 29 13:54:31 jeff's watching winds Aug 29 13:54:50 I'm not able to plot lat/long on ION....... does anyone have an idea why?...... other variables seem to plot just fine. Aug 29 13:55:00 Hee Hee. I can found out when I get the web. Aug 29 13:55:15 Thanks for paying attention. Aug 29 13:55:21 to WINDS. Aug 29 13:56:01 <-- ewsaw has quit (CGI:IRC (EOF)) Aug 29 13:56:07 for color use [percent sign]C[color number] to start new color, then [percent sign]C0 to go back to the white (couldn't really use the % as that would have changed the color... Aug 29 13:56:13 --> ewsaw (~80752c1c@linus.atd.ucar.edu) has joined #IDEAS3 Aug 29 13:56:17 Jacob you might ba able to reach him via the ICS Aug 29 13:56:50 you could try the flight track button and get the lat long plot that way Aug 29 13:57:45 ICS? Aug 29 13:58:11 Jacob: the Intercom system on the plane. Aug 29 13:58:26 Ahhh. thanks. Aug 29 13:59:06 Dr. Shaw, we put in some safety features on our heaters, including temperature lockouts and such. It became eveident we had to after almost cooking the camera. (Luckily the polymer spacer took the hit.) Aug 29 13:59:41 <-- anstett has quit (Flood) Aug 29 13:59:45 --> anstett (~chatzilla@blizzard.atd.ucar.edu) has joined #IDEAS3 Aug 29 13:59:48 What is the outside temp? Aug 29 13:59:52 for bold, use you can do bold by us\ing [percent sign]B to start and [percent sign]B to stop Aug 29 14:00:18 I just fixed ION so now it will plot lat/long . Aug 29 14:00:59 Thanks Janet, what's the outside temp? I don't have a WINDs nearby and don't think I should leave my instrument. Aug 29 14:01:11 Janet I still get a black screen with lat and lon Aug 29 14:01:15 atc very busy today, trying to get higher for second rtrack--standby Aug 29 14:01:19 which acronyme in ION stands for altitute, outside pressure, out side dew point ? Aug 29 14:01:43 ? Aug 29 14:02:29 From my plot outside temp is now about -10C Aug 29 14:02:30 Altitude is PALT Dew Point is DPXC and pressure is PSFDC Aug 29 14:03:14 thabx jcowan :) Aug 29 14:03:29 thanx Aug 29 14:04:37 cleared to 22k, then will do another rtrack Aug 29 14:05:38 ATC = air traffic control? Aug 29 14:05:59 inversion at 20 k, wind increasing Aug 29 14:06:05 Looks like mostly stratus clouds, yah? Aug 29 14:06:22 Air traffic control Aug 29 14:06:58 Dr. Shaw, which clouds most likely have 50 micron drops? Only cumulus congestus or thunderheads? Aug 29 14:07:07 jp got good holo ? Aug 29 14:08:03 --> agave-c130 (~ads@ras40.ucar.edu) has joined #IDEAS3 Aug 29 14:08:06 No no clouds flown through yet. Aug 29 14:08:41 Still at 22000 feet doing reverse track maneuvers that supposedly are good for aerosol measurements? Don't know why. Aug 29 14:08:47 --- agave-c130 is now known as Bill-c130 Aug 29 14:10:17 just curious, why does DPXC fluctuates so much, when PSFDC, PALT, ATX at PALT=5000m ? Aug 29 14:10:59 sorry i mean when the other 3 parameters were fairly constant at alt=5km Aug 29 14:11:57 Bill I'm here if you need me. Aug 29 14:13:01 dpxc may be oscillating a bit, check against other dps Aug 29 14:14:07 See low level strato-cumulus beneath us, lined up in bands. Probably shows up on satellite vis image. Aug 29 14:15:14 fwiw, unable to boot grendel WINDS station. Aug 29 14:16:44 dsp=? Aug 29 14:17:03 Just turned on laser to check for condensation. Laser looks great, no condensation. Turned off. Aug 29 14:18:31 ewsaw, we have 2 dew points onboard. the one displayed may not be as stable as the other. If we had the planes full data feed we could compare the two on the ground. Aug 29 14:21:10 finished reverse track, now looking for clouds outside of atc pileup Aug 29 14:21:34 estimate cloud contact in about 10 minutes, depending on atc Aug 29 14:22:23 dps=other depoints Aug 29 14:23:36 waiting for clearance Aug 29 14:24:00 JP-do you mean the grany gulp we saw this morning was gone..? Aug 29 14:24:08 John - the lat/long in ION will plot on the ground but not on the plane. This is becauseof the change in the name of the variables. Aug 29 14:25:03 :) sorry but what are the accronyms for other DP-- ? Aug 29 14:25:45 JP- i mean 'grain-ny' Aug 29 14:26:03 No the left 3/4 screen is still grainy. Same as this morning. Aug 29 14:27:36 Yeah, I know. Laser power on, Diode off. Ready for flight through clouds. Aug 29 14:28:18 Diode off means we aren't burning the laser crystal. Aug 29 14:30:48 jcowan, thanx :) Aug 29 14:31:25 looks like we are going to get clearance now, you can see the cloud on video Aug 29 14:31:54 What is the outside temp again? Aug 29 14:32:32 easaw, Ion will only plot the one. The other is displayed on the plane only. Aug 29 14:33:07 Nice looking cloud. Is it that far away? Wow. 12-15 minutes. Aug 29 14:33:45 4 Aug 29 14:35:05 interesting CN blip at 20:30Z, jumped from bkgd 600 to 1800, then returned to 600. Aug 29 14:35:57 seat belts hang on Aug 29 14:40:31 Hey1!! Nice data. got a bright 1.5 minute pass through this cloud!! Aug 29 14:41:02 --> schanot (~8075543a@linus.atd.ucar.edu) has joined #IDEAS3 Aug 29 14:41:39 Am turning on/off laser diode to conser ve the laser until we're in the cloud. Aug 29 14:42:17 Screen still clear of condensation. Aug 29 14:44:57 <-- cockpit-c130 has quit (Ping timeout) Aug 29 14:45:02 <-- daveR-c130 has quit (Ping timeout) Aug 29 14:45:08 <-- Bill-c130 has quit (Ping timeout) Aug 29 14:45:18 <-- jpfugal-c130 has quit (Ping timeout) Aug 29 14:50:05 Jp- Do you think the grains would degrade the obtained holograms ? Aug 29 14:51:08 JP- does the fringes of true doplet appear grainny too..? Aug 29 14:56:42 I think JPfugal's network connection is physically disconnected, can someone pls makes him realize that. Aug 29 15:01:41 \exit Aug 29 15:01:50 <-- beaton (~8075543b@linus.atd.ucar.edu) has left #IDEAS3 Aug 29 15:03:22 We've lost all connection to the aircraft.. Until someone on the plane figures out that the connection is down and restarts it, we won't hear anything from them. Aug 29 15:04:16 Does that mean we can chat here and say bad things about them with impunity . Aug 29 15:07:41 --> tschudi (~807554bb@linus.atd.ucar.edu) has joined #IDEAS3 Aug 29 15:08:45 <-- tschudi has quit (CGI:IRC (EOF)) Aug 29 15:09:12 --> tschudi (~807554bb@linus.atd.ucar.edu) has joined #IDEAS3 Aug 29 15:09:15 <-- tschudi has quit (CGI:IRC) Aug 29 15:10:30 --> tschudi (~807554bb@linus.atd.ucar.edu) has joined #IDEAS3 Aug 29 15:11:26 test Aug 29 15:12:04 <-- tschudi has quit (CGI:IRC (EOF)) Aug 29 15:13:14 --> Mark (~chatzilla@dyn84-17.atd.ucar.edu) has joined #IDEAS3 Aug 29 15:13:42 ACtracker is back up, or at least ION is updating again. Aug 29 15:17:01 --> jpfugal-c130 (~jpfugal@ras40.ucar.edu) has joined #IDEAS3 Aug 29 15:17:31 We have data from cloud passes at 22, 19, 15, and 13000 feet. Aug 29 15:17:48 Jp- Do you think the grains would degrade the obtained holograms ? Aug 29 15:17:48 Aug 29 15:17:48 JP- does the fringes of true doplet appear grainny too..? Aug 29 15:18:36 status of laser brightness ? Aug 29 15:18:43 Left half grainy. Right half with fringes not too bad. Aug 29 15:18:55 Laser is not dim yet. Auto gain at 405. Aug 29 15:19:14 Now I have the laser on all the time. Aug 29 15:19:56 No condensation problems. Aug 29 15:20:15 Jacob.... I've been away from the computer for a bit...... sounds like you are getting some good data..... great!..... makes me wish I was there, except for the ~1 m/s rms vertical velocity! Aug 29 15:24:41 Yeah. Have saved to both new hard drives now in clouds. Will see if they have problems. Aug 29 15:24:59 Now below some stratus clouds. Aug 29 15:25:06 I wish I could be on the ground and see this thing fly through clouds. Aug 29 15:25:11 Dang, our laser is still alive and well!! Aug 29 15:25:21 What's wrong with ti. Aug 29 15:25:24 it. Aug 29 15:26:09 There was hail in that last cloud past. Got some nice pictures. Aug 29 15:26:34 maybe we finally hit the jackpot with the Nd:YFF crystal? Aug 29 15:26:42 Maybe so. Aug 29 15:27:01 I'll run it continuously now and see if it keeps working. Aug 29 15:27:31 Auto gain still at 406 (range - 325-1023). Aug 29 15:27:47 Jacob --- can you switch over to the other window for a few minutes? Aug 29 15:28:47 Go ahead. This chat thing alerts me if you type in that window. Aug 29 15:34:41 <-- daniels has quit (Leaving) Aug 29 15:35:54 --> agave-c130 (~ads@ras40.ucar.edu) has joined #IDEAS3 Aug 29 15:36:22 nick/bill-c130 Aug 29 15:36:41 <-- agave-c130 has quit (Client Exiting) Aug 29 15:38:32 Ewe Wei I want to investigate this graininess. Perhaps it is on the beam expansion optics. Aug 29 15:38:49 Perhpas on the inside of the filter epoxied on the laser head. Aug 29 15:41:37 <-- rashaw has quit (CGI:IRC (EOF)) Aug 29 15:41:43 yupe i have similar suspicion Aug 29 15:41:56 Are you heading back to Jeffco? Aug 29 15:42:59 lets expand the beam thru far distant & inspect Aug 29 15:43:50 I really don't want to take the mirror out. But taking laser out is fine. Aug 29 15:44:10 Laser is flickering now, but not dimming. Aug 29 15:44:38 yeah take out the laser was wat i mean Aug 29 15:48:24 turned off laser. Aug 29 15:48:35 Yes we're going back to Jeffco. Aug 29 15:52:35 <-- schanot has quit (CGI:IRC) Aug 29 15:55:23 <-- jpfugal-c130 has quit (Leaving) Aug 29 15:57:19 <-- dcollins has quit (CGI:IRC (EOF)) Aug 29 15:58:44 --> clyde-c130 (~ads@ras40.ucar.edu) has joined #IDEAS3 Aug 29 15:58:53 --- clyde-c130 is now known as daveR-c130 Aug 29 15:59:50 Meet you on the ground Dave Aug 29 16:00:08 <-- jcowan has quit (Leaving) Aug 29 16:07:34 <-- Mark has quit (Read error to Mark[dyn84-17.atd.ucar.edu]) Aug 29 16:18:01 <-- ewsaw (~80752c1c@linus.atd.ucar.edu) has left #IDEAS3 Aug 29 16:20:00 C-130 back at Jeffco Aug 29 16:20:08 bye Aug 29 16:20:15 <-- daveR-c130 has quit (Client Exiting) Aug 29 16:22:15 --- You have left channel #IDEAS3 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 29 16:22:15 2003