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Nov 18 04:10:49 <ADS-c130>	I'm not talking?
Nov 18 04:10:49 <ADS-c130>	\nick ADS-c130
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Nov 18 04:10:54 <ADS>	Hello on the ground?
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Nov 18 04:16:09 <ADS-c130>	Yeah!!!! Someone else is still awake at this hour!
Nov 18 04:18:12 <jbj>	yEP, SLAVING AWAY, BUT HAVING A GOOD TIME AT IT.
Nov 18 04:18:23 <jbj>	However, I cannot control my keyboard!
Nov 18 04:20:12 <jbj>	I looked at Nevz... ; can you push the auto button's once, and then 10 secs later adjust the manual switch till your display shows NLWCC = 0.02 and NTWCC about the same? - When time permits.
Nov 18 04:23:33 <ADS-c130>	Hmm, sounds like sleep deprivation.  Might need to stop getting up so early <grin>.
Nov 18 04:23:33 <ADS-c130>	We are still climbing I was going to do it once we got to ferry altitude, if that is ok?
Nov 18 04:23:46 <jbj>	OK.
Nov 18 04:23:55 <ADS-c130>	Also picking up some images on the 2d probes.  Will that throw off a Nev cal?
Nov 18 04:25:38 <jbj>	Yes, best to wait until you are in clear air, even if that means a climb or descent, I guess.
Nov 18 04:27:24 <ADS-c130>	Ok.  I will cal it once we get to some clear air.
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Nov 18 04:41:27 <ADS-c130>	I'm back.  The server disconnected me and closed the socket.  Still in cloud tops waiting to cal the Nevz at the first oppertunity.  Sorry I did not get it on climb out I thought there would be plenty of time during the ferry.
Nov 18 04:41:27 <ADS-c130>	DPT is oscillating again.
Nov 18 04:42:15 <jbj>	Too bad about DPT. - I think that you will get a chance for Nev's further along
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Nov 18 04:58:22 <cwolff>	Conditions seem to be holding at YMX.  The Otter is on its way there.
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Nov 18 05:08:18 <hercules-c130>	Jorgen, I keep getting logged off by the server.  The message is "Disconnected (Remote host closed socket)".  This has to be something thaty is happening at ATD.  It makes it so that I have to stop AC Tracker to make chat start up again. Please pass this on to Ron.
Nov 18 05:11:52 <hercules-c130>	I think I got the Nevz zeroed. We are now in clear air with a cloud deck below us and light clouds abive.
Nov 18 05:11:52 <hercules-c130>	Let kne know you are getting this please.
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Nov 18 05:20:04 <jbj>	Sorry, Hercules. I saw the zeroing, but not your message until now. looks good
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Nov 18 05:30:18 <hercules-c130>	We are now over Mirabel, ready to start our decsent. I will bring up chat when we do major changes if it crashes again.
Nov 18 05:31:21 <cwolff>	The Otter is over YMX now as well.  They found an approximately 2 kft. deep cloud coming out of YOW.  Tops were rising slightly towards YMX.
Nov 18 05:32:17 <cwolff>	The YMX sounding shows a cloud up to ~ 5000 ft. with a CTT of 0 C.  Surface temperature is -1 C.
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Nov 18 05:51:41 <hercules-c130>	Starting transect now at 8K. Will do missed approach once NASA clears the airspace.
Nov 18 05:52:16 <hercules-c130>	Jorgen, Do we need to zero the Nevz again?
Nov 18 06:04:56 <hercules-c130>	Twin Otter is starting to clear the area, we are going to complete this transect and then go for a missed approach.
Nov 18 06:05:01 <jbj>	It still looks OK. Just to be safe, try to do another zero before hitting cloud.
Nov 18 06:05:35 <jbj>	The zero includes a new offset of 0.02 g/m3 for both Nevs.
Nov 18 06:07:00 <hercules-c130>	Ok, I will zreo them when we complete this leg since we are heading into clouds next.
Nov 18 06:07:57 <jbj>	Is there any cloud there?
Nov 18 06:08:06 <jbj>	OK - missed your l;ast message.
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Nov 18 06:30:56 <hercules-c130>	On approach to Mirabel. 
Nov 18 06:32:44 <hercules-c130>	Now heading back up.
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Nov 18 06:38:19 <hercules-c130>	Hmm it reconnected me that time.  First time all flight.
Nov 18 06:42:11 <jbj>	OK, can you get into cloud on the lowest transect?
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Nov 18 06:52:23 <hercules-c130>	Only get in clouds at 3400 to the east of YMX
Nov 18 06:52:41 <jbj>	Looks like you are picking up some pretty good LWC there, at least per the Nev-tot sensor.
Nov 18 06:53:06 <hercules-c130>	Cloud west of YMX is lower and shallower.
Nov 18 06:54:52 <jbj>	Any drizzle when you were at the lowest over the runway, missed app.
Nov 18 06:57:27 <hercules-c130>	Looked like there was some drizzle or virga. Now cleared fr another missed approach will transect at 3000 to outer marker.
Nov 18 06:59:56 <hercules-c130>	Looks like cloud is thinning out, we can see the ground on the down video.
Nov 18 07:01:48 <hercules-c130>	Getting into cloud now.
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Nov 18 07:21:16 <jbj>	Hi Herc, both chat and ION may be down.
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Nov 18 07:25:21 <ruth>	Chat  ION have been up since takeoff
Nov 18 07:33:06 <ruth>	Looks like we lost the C-130 link about 30 minutes ago, actually, but systems are up at NCAR
Nov 18 07:38:57 <jbj>	I think) ir order to get back on cha.
Nov 18 07:39:20 <jbj>	Sorry, Ron. - message scrambled.
Nov 18 07:40:03 <jbj>	We have had chat problems for several days - maybe you can check with Janet if anything has changed in her last day or days here.
Nov 18 07:41:01 <jbj>	C-130 says that they have to reboot to get chat back online, - at least that was the message this morning before takeoff.
Nov 18 07:49:51 <ruth>	I'll check with Janet when I get to work this morning
Nov 18 07:51:07 <jbj>	OK, forgot about the time difference.
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Nov 18 07:55:27 <hercules-c130>	Anyone on the ground.  We need the METAR for CYYB and the TAF for KCLE
Nov 18 07:56:35 <hercules-c130>	You can find that information at www.avationweather.gov
Nov 18 07:57:40 <hercules-c130>	www.aviationweather.gov
Nov 18 07:57:41 <cwolff>	CYYB 181400Z 11012G17KT 10 SM  FEW004 BKN020 OVC100 02/01 A3002 RMK SF1SC7AS1 SLP183
Nov 18 07:58:47 <cwolff>	KCLE 181131Z 181212 16014G20 P6SM OVC 080
Nov 18 07:59:28 <cwolff>	FM1400 16014G24KT 6SM -RA BR OVC035   TEMPO 1418 4SM -RA BR OVC020
Nov 18 08:00:13 <cwolff>	FM 1800 18014G24KT 6SM -RA BR OVC030   TEMPO 1822 3SM -RA BR OVC015
Nov 18 08:00:30 <cwolff>	FM0000 18017KT 3SM -RA OVC010
Nov 18 08:00:42 <cwolff>	Anything else?
Nov 18 08:05:32 <jbj>	Hi C-130, the forecast for tomorrow calls for afternoon altocu layer with tops at -12degC. The trajectorie comes directly from western Kentucky over Cleveland and to Mirabel. Although the 24-hour trajectory has Cleveland being only about 12 hours upwind of Mirabel, it could nevertheless be  good to ferry back to Cleveland at altitudes between 8 and 12 kft, just in case tomorrow is of interest.
Nov 18 08:06:19 <jbj>	Maybe you would be in cloud at this level for part of the ferry back.
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Nov 18 08:13:25 <hercules-c130>	Back in chat again.  This is a real pain anymore.
Nov 18 08:15:34 <hercules-c130>	Jorgen, I think John is looking to transit back at the altitudes you suggested.
Nov 18 08:16:56 <jbj>	Thanks - good. Jorgen
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Nov 18 08:28:12 <hercules-c130>	Back Again
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Nov 18 08:39:13 <jbj>	Hi C130 - do you have an ETA at Cleveland. Bill is asking when to get back to the airport.
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Nov 18 08:44:56 <jbj>	Hi C130 - do you have an ETA at Cleveland. Bill is asking when to get back to the airport.
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Nov 18 08:47:26 <hercules-c130>	Back again. We really need to get this fixed for chat to be of much use anymore.
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Nov 18 08:47:58 <hercules-c130>	Preparing for missed approach to North Bay.
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Nov 18 09:02:59 <jbj>	Hi C130 - do you have an ETA at Cleveland. Bill is asking when to get back to the airport.
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Nov 18 09:18:55 <jbj>	recently)
Nov 18 09:19:45 <jbj>	recently)
Nov 18 09:20:07 <jbj>	Hi jeff and Teresa, C-130 is expected back to Cleveland in 80 minutes.
Nov 18 09:20:42 <campos>	Thanks, Jorgen.
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Nov 18 09:53:51 <hercules-c130>	Well I see that one at the airport is on chat.  I'm not suprised since it is working so poorly.
Nov 18 09:54:33 <hercules-c130>	This has not worked good since the power went out at the mesa lab.
Nov 18 09:55:21 <hercules-c130>	I'll just call them with the ETA.  I'll stay up as long as the system lets me.
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Nov 18 10:21:40 <hercules-c130>	Wouldn't you know it, works best just as we land <grin>
Nov 18 10:32:19 <hercules-c130>	About 10 min from CLE.
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