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Apr 28 09:05:39 <daniels>	anybody there?
Apr 28 09:05:52 <daniels>	Will the C130 be on this channel during the ACME test flight?
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Apr 28 09:33:29 <aulenbac>	helllo
Apr 28 09:33:49 <Ron>	Hi Steve, I can see you.
Apr 28 09:34:34 <aulenbac>	/join
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Apr 28 09:35:22 <Ron>	You're already here.  I'm not sure why you're not showing up in my joined list
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Apr 28 09:38:46 <Ron>	Hi Mike!  This will be used for the ACME test flight.
Apr 28 09:40:09 <daniels>	Ron: ok, thanks.  I asked Jan if I could give a live demo during the HAC.  He said it was OK.  The reason  I am connecting in and out is that I am testing the URL links from my presentation and trying to get them right.
Apr 28 09:40:42 <Ron>	Mike, How can I get Chatzilla to see our chat channel.  It didn't know about ChatJunkiesNet, and I don't know how to set it up.
Apr 28 09:41:11 <aulenbac>	this is steve
Apr 28 09:41:21 <daniels>	hi steve
Apr 28 09:42:01 <daniels>	ron: you can go to edit preferences and set chatzilla to automatically connect to syrah.atd.ucar.edu and the #C130Q chat channel
Apr 28 09:42:31 <daniels>	your can also try this:  irc://syrah.atd.ucar.edu/c130q and just click on this link once you've set your nickname.
Apr 28 09:43:16 <daniels>	ron, does this help?
Apr 28 09:46:28 <daniels>	are  your there?
Apr 28 09:46:34 <daniels>	i mean you
Apr 28 09:46:56 <Ron>	Yes
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Apr 28 09:48:16 <RLR>	Here I am on chatzilla!
Apr 28 09:48:43 <Ron>	Nice to see how this works!
Apr 28 09:50:28 <RLR>	Bye from chatzilla
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Apr 28 09:51:37 <aulenbac>	this is steve
Apr 28 09:51:41 <daniels>	hi steve
Apr 28 09:52:07 <aulenbac>	hi mike. ron and i are testing out a few chat clients
Apr 28 09:53:04 <daniels>	that's good.  I think xchat is a pretty good one (ron probably mentioned that, right).  I've tried mirc and a few others, too.  Which ones have you tried?
Apr 28 09:55:22 <aulenbac>	we're working with chatzilla (mac and linux), tried fire (mac) without success. I think it was going through an IM protocol but i really don't know enough how all this works to be sure.
Apr 28 09:56:36 <daniels>	www.xchat.org is where you can get the xchat client, btw.  There is also a Mac OSX version.
Apr 28 09:56:48 <Ron>	Mike, Steve's even newer at this than I.  I've used the PostNuke, Xchat and now ChatZilla.  Strange that ChatZilla doesn't seem to have a way to just open a channel.  To get it to work I had to go to the Preferences and set up syrah/#C130Q, exit and restart ChatZilla.
Apr 28 09:57:33 <daniels>	Ron, as I said, I did try about 4 or 5 different clients back in the BAMEX days and xchat was the best of that bunch.
Apr 28 09:58:11 <daniels>	but I'm always interested in hearing about new stuff ;-)
Apr 28 09:58:17 <Ron>	Mike, I do like xchat.  Have you seen the new hangar construction photos?
Apr 28 09:58:45 <daniels>	not yet.  I'm here in the hac meeting and gerry will be showing them to us this afternoon.  i hear all the framing is up.
Apr 28 09:59:10 <daniels>	any walls yet?
Apr 28 09:59:40 <aulenbac>	any idea how to chat with netscape 7.x?
Apr 28 10:00:11 <aulenbac>	David Baker and I are trying to get him up and running on the default CGD browser, netcape
Apr 28 10:00:27 <daniels>	steve.  not sure if chatzilla is part of netscape 7.x, but you could always use the Java applet through the postnuke web site.
Apr 28 10:00:40 <daniels>	ron can post the url
Apr 28 10:00:52 <Ron>	Some of the framing is up.  No walls.  They started from the north side.  They've added some horizontal support structure, but most of it is the larger vertical beams.
Apr 28 10:02:17 <Ron>	The only thing about the PostNuke chat is that it's available only to registered users.  (I can add them as necessary.)
Apr 28 10:02:43 <daniels>	steve, are you up on the mesa?  or at jeffco?
Apr 28 10:03:13 <Ron>	The only PostNuke site that is "active" now is http://raf.atd.ucar.edu/OW/  (Be sure to use the trailing <slash>!)
Apr 28 10:03:57 <aulenbac>	i'm at the mesa
Apr 28 10:04:50 <aulenbac>	i'm pointing david baker to the url. he sees it. what's next?
Apr 28 10:05:01 <daniels>	what does he "see"
Apr 28 10:05:14 <daniels>	we don't see him in the chatroom yet
Apr 28 10:05:28 <aulenbac>	where does he go for chat
Apr 28 10:05:41 <daniels>	ok, ron can take it from here -- he needs an account now, right?!?!
Apr 28 10:06:05 <aulenbac>	x1306 is David's extension, ron
Apr 28 10:06:17 <Ron>	He needs to be a registered user, so the first thing would be to go to the "create one" link.  After that I'll have to approve him/her for access to the chat.
Apr 28 10:08:34 <daniels>	ron, do you know how long today's test flight is planned to be?
Apr 28 10:08:44 <Ron>	I think about 2 hours.
Apr 28 10:09:50 <daniels>	ok, fyi, my presentation to the hac is scheduled to happen between 130p and 210p as per the agenda
Apr 28 10:10:51 <daniels>	i will update people of the EXACT time as i know it, but i hope everyone can say hi to the HAC live
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Apr 28 10:11:05 <sacks>	hi everyone
Apr 28 10:11:22 <daniels>	i sacks
Apr 28 10:11:26 <sacks>	I'm using X-Chat on Windows
Apr 28 10:11:40 <sacks>	(This is Bill)
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Apr 28 10:12:21 <daniels>	sack: ok, great.
Apr 28 10:12:56 <aulenbac>	looks like ron got david in the chat
Apr 28 10:13:21 <daniels>	great, i assume he's dfb
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Apr 28 10:13:36 <aulenbac>	yep, that's his login
Apr 28 10:14:35 <aulenbac>	mike, what's the HAC and when you say everyone, do you want to us groundhuggers to join in?
Apr 28 10:14:42 <daniels>	everybody: just so you know, I am planning to give a presentation to the HIAPER Advisory Committee (HAC), including some NSF mucky mucks, Tim Killeen and Larry Winter.  I hope everybody is as talkative as possible!
Apr 28 10:15:07 <ruth>	bye'
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Apr 28 10:15:29 <daniels>	i want to take an opportunity to demonstrate a live chat for the hiaper group, but in no way want to interfere with c130 ops
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Apr 28 10:15:36 <Ron>	Hi david
Apr 28 10:16:02 <david>	hi all ... I'm here
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Apr 28 10:18:08 <baker>	... to avoid confusion with Dave Schimel...
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Apr 28 10:27:54 <daniels>	ron, can you give me the url for live ion data for this flight?
Apr 28 10:28:35 <Ron>	If they can get the Sat phone up and running, the URL will be:
Apr 28 10:28:39 <Ron>	http://raf.atd.ucar.edu/cgi-bin/ion/ion-p?page=c130.ion
Apr 28 10:29:10 <Ron>	At this time, this URL shows the last Ocean Waves flight on 3 March 2004.
Apr 28 10:29:24 <daniels>	ok, then i had the correct one, thx
Apr 28 10:30:11 <aulenbac>	mike and ron,  i've also updated the ACME Swiki with that link if you want to show off collaborative technology
Apr 28 10:31:48 <aulenbac>	http://swiki.ucar.edu/acme/44
Apr 28 10:33:15 <daniels>	steve: thanks, actually we have used the postnuke package for this on the past several projects and it's the only one i'm comfortable navigating through at this time in front of all these people ;-)  -- i plan to take a look at your acme swiki implementation later in the project, though!
Apr 28 10:33:51 <aulenbac>	no prob -- its there iff you want it.
Apr 28 10:34:31 <aulenbac>	yesterday's meeting notes are at: http://swiki.ucar.edu/acme/36
Apr 28 10:35:53 <Ron>	Steve, How do I get the the C-130 link from the ACME home page?  I had to go to "recent changes" to get there.
Apr 28 10:36:55 <Ron>	C-130Q is now on the tarmac.  No power yet.
Apr 28 10:45:55 <aulenbac>	use the /44
Apr 28 10:46:16 <aulenbac>	I hope to get the swiki navBar updated today or tomorrow
Apr 28 10:48:27 <aulenbac>	david, are you still there?
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Apr 28 10:56:48 <aulenbac>	hello, beaton this is steve
Apr 28 10:57:21 <beaton>	Hi, this is Stuart (beaton)
Apr 28 11:00:41 <aulenbac>	How do we do this? We do not want to interfere with your ops. Shall we wait until you post something?
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Apr 28 11:10:46 <ads>	hi from the c130, anyone there?
Apr 28 11:10:53 <Ron>	Here we are!
Apr 28 11:10:54 <aulenbac>	this is steve
Apr 28 11:10:59 <sacks>	and bill
Apr 28 11:11:20 <ads>	Looks like chat will be working for the flight today!
Apr 28 11:11:50 <baker>	dave here
Apr 28 11:13:54 <daniels>	ads: but, of course ;-)
Apr 28 11:15:10 <aulenbac>	so, please educate a novice -- do we have a protocol to follow?
Apr 28 11:15:31 <daniels>	did you hear that I may be doing another live dog and pony show this afternoon along with the HIAPER Advisory Committee?!?!  I'm due to give a presentation from 130p-210p, so I hope you are still flying!
Apr 28 11:16:38 <aulenbac>	actually, what is your flight plan for today? Are you doing a Niwot pattern? 
Apr 28 11:17:10 <daniels>	steve, i would just not type too much if you see lots of activity.  test flights are for fixing instrument problems and that's the number 1 priority.  I imagine the RAF technicians/project manager will tell us to stop chatting if we are interfering.
Apr 28 11:17:44 <daniels>	one can never plan what actuially happens 'on the flight...
Apr 28 11:18:21 <aulenbac>	mike, thanks.
Apr 28 11:19:13 <ads>	hello\
Apr 28 11:20:01 <aulenbac>	steve here
Apr 28 11:21:21 <daniels>	hey ads: i heard a rumor that chris webster might be flying today -- is that true?
Apr 28 11:22:06 <daniels>	he is supposed to be giving a presentation along with me but there is no sign of him.
Apr 28 11:28:20 <Ron>	Chris is not on the manifest.
Apr 28 11:28:30 <daniels>	is he at jeffco?
Apr 28 11:28:47 <beaton>	He was on the airplane a few minutes ago
Apr 28 11:30:08 <daniels>	ok, thx stuart
Apr 28 11:30:52 <ads>	hi steve - same as planned but without the sawtooth - going straight to Kremmling after take off then straight to one racetrack and one rollercoaster - Brit
Apr 28 11:31:27 <ads>	steve - also check out the ion link from the raf page for realtime data and location - Britt\
Apr 28 11:39:35 <aulenbac>	shall do
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Apr 28 11:40:31 <aulenbac>	I've also added that link to the acme swiki
Apr 28 11:41:14 <Ron>	FYI, only one hercules on the C-130 is available for chat.  Since that's the tech workstation, they may not have much time available.
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Apr 28 11:48:46 <Ron>	Note to hercules from Janet:  If you lose chat, the buttons won't work to get it back.  You'll need to be root and run
Apr 28 11:50:06 <Ron>	the following command:  /cfdisk/bin/startIridium
Apr 28 11:57:59 <Ron>	No real-time data today.
Apr 28 11:58:16 <daniels>	shucks.  why not?
Apr 28 11:59:06 <Ron>	New computer not set up yet.  Had to pull strings just to get one machine (hercules) on chat.
Apr 28 12:01:13 <ads>	Mike, I'll try and talk some towards the end of the flight...Bill
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Apr 28 12:01:28 <daniels>	ok, thanks bill
Apr 28 12:02:03 <daniels>	should we change your nick to ads-c130?
Apr 28 12:02:25 <daniels>	you can type "/nick ads-c130" to do this...
Apr 28 12:02:37 <daniels>	no quotes, of course!
Apr 28 12:02:49 <Ron>	And they're off!
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Apr 28 12:03:35 <ads>	nick ads-C-130
Apr 28 12:04:03 <daniels>	need the slash
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Apr 28 12:04:16 <ads-c130>	hows that
Apr 28 12:04:18 <daniels>	you got 'er
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Apr 28 12:04:49 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	Bill, Kurt called and I gave him the update. Hope all goes well.
Apr 28 12:10:57 <ads-c130>	ok john, he can look at it tomorrow
Apr 28 12:14:10 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	Yeah, He said that he was not worried about the WSI since we had a good ground check.  He recommended unplugging the GPS and then try it, but I think it is best to wait until you get back.
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Apr 28 12:44:45 <ads-c130>	fairly bumpy up here, several crew not feeling well, good thing chris isn't here
Apr 28 12:45:23 <daniels>	be careful -- kurt is stting here now watching everything you type
Apr 28 12:49:30 <daniels>	jack fox says hi
Apr 28 12:50:14 <daniels>	anybody here?  or did you get knocked out of your seat
Apr 28 12:50:38 <ads-c130>	we're bouncy 
Apr 28 12:51:37 <daniels>	okey dokey
Apr 28 12:55:34 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	They said it was going to be a rough flight.  I hope you make it okay Bill.
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Apr 28 12:56:54 <daniels>	dale kellogg suggests that you give the fl atrium a high speed buzz
Apr 28 12:57:05 <daniels>	pls pass on to henry
Apr 28 12:59:07 <daniels>	what is your altitude?
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Apr 28 13:12:34 <daniels>	any idea how much longer you will be in  the air?
Apr 28 13:15:46 <ads-c130>	we are headed for home now
Apr 28 13:15:53 <daniels>	eta?
Apr 28 13:16:20 <ads-c130>	we're in the pattern now
Apr 28 13:16:28 <daniels>	ok, thx
Apr 28 13:18:17 <daniels>	will anyone else be around for me to talk to during the presentation?
Apr 28 13:18:58 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	When do you need someone mike?
Apr 28 13:19:15 <daniels>	somewhere around 2pm?
Apr 28 13:19:20 <aulenbac-MesaLab>	I'm here. Perhaps we could get Britt and/or Dave Schimel 
Apr 28 13:19:35 <daniels>	that would be great, steve/john -- thx
Apr 28 13:20:09 <daniels>	i will give you a more exact time as i know it.  as usual we are already behind on the agenda.
Apr 28 13:20:26 <aulenbac-MesaLab>	mike, please clarify -- do want want Britt and Dave?
Apr 28 13:21:01 <daniels>	not necessary, just someone to chat with would be nice...
Apr 28 13:21:11 <daniels>	i was hoping the plane would be in the air, but...
Apr 28 13:21:22 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	I will be here unless there are issues with the plane.
Apr 28 13:21:40 <daniels>	ok
Apr 28 13:21:42 <ads-c130>	there are
Apr 28 13:22:01 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	Any Major issue?
Apr 28 13:22:38 <ads-c130>	talk n a few
Apr 28 13:23:01 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	Okay We will see you whne you land. Are you close?
Apr 28 13:25:01 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	I think they may have just landed. Yep that's them.
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Apr 28 13:29:04 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	brb mike, going to talk to Bill for a few minutes.
Apr 28 13:31:08 <daniels>	ok
Apr 28 13:31:17 <daniels>	i think we might be on in 15 minutes or so
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Apr 28 13:36:12 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	Mike I'm back. Still in the que to present?
Apr 28 13:36:21 <daniels>	yes
Apr 28 13:36:30 <daniels>	maybe 5-15 minutes
Apr 28 13:37:38 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	That's good.  I think tey are getting ready for the debrief but Bill can handle that. Does spelling count for this <grin>?
Apr 28 13:38:21 <daniels>	not at all, it makes it more authentic so they don't think i made all this stuff up ;-)
Apr 28 13:39:00 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	Well that is true <grin>.
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Apr 28 13:50:10 <daniels>	sorry guys, jeff stith is STILL talking.  no need to wait around.  i will just pop in and see if anyone is around at the time.
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Apr 28 14:18:18 <Ron>	Britt, I see you!
Apr 28 14:18:28 <Ron>	Mike's not logged in right now.
Apr 28 14:19:00 <Britt>	Hi Mike - I'm back in my office after a successful test flight.  Let me know if you'd like to chat during your presentation.
Apr 28 14:19:27 <Britt>	ok
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Apr 28 14:19:33 <daniels>	anybody
Apr 28 14:19:47 <daniels>	anybody there
Apr 28 14:19:54 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	Hi Mike.
Apr 28 14:20:21 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	Britt and Ron were just chatting as well.
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Apr 28 14:23:56 <Britt>	here
Apr 28 14:24:15 <daniels>	sorry just missed you.  presentation is done...
Apr 28 14:24:38 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	OK, I'll be leaving then.
Apr 28 14:24:49 <daniels>	bye, thanks for sticking around!
Apr 28 14:25:08 <Jcowan-Jeffco>	No problem.  Hope you have a fun rest of the day.
Apr 28 14:25:10 <Britt>	ok, thanks!
Apr 28 14:27:03 <daniels>	see you
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